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JOHN GERDES: DNA specialist; testified he’s being paid $100

September 9, 1995 GMT

JOHN GERDES: DNA specialist; testified he’s being paid $100 an hour by defense; said Los Angeles police crime lab was ``by far″ the worst he’d seen and it should be shut down because of it’s contamination levels; said he would have no scientific confidence in tests done on blood taken from Simpson Bronco because of poor evidence handling and lax security; said blood samples from glove at Simpson’s estate, from sock and from crime scene gate had enough DNA that cross-contamination hadn’t occurred; conceded that police technician didn’t extract DNA from some blood samples, so they couldn’t have been cross-contaminated at extraction stage; conceded that two types of DNA testing, PCR and RFLP, at three different labs failed to exclude Simpson as source of key blood evidence; said PCR testing was unreliable in criminal cases because of high chance of contamination.


TERENCE P. SPEED: statistics professor; testified that best laboratories can be plagued by errors; said that separating samples to be sent to different labs for testing doesn’t fix problems that can occur during evidence collection; emphasized importance of incorporating laboratory error rates; acknowledged he didn’t do analysis of facts in Simpson case and said he was testifying in the abstract.

MICHAEL BADEN: former New York coroner; disagreed with testimony by prosecution coroner, saying it is nearly impossible to determine number and size of assailants and number of weapons used in the killings; suggested attack took much longer to complete than prosecution believes; said prosecution witness may have erred in suggesting that Goldman suffered taunting-style cuts to neck before fatal slash to jugular; disagreed with theory that Ms. Simpson had foot placed on her back and had her throat cut while lying on ground with her head pulled back; said neither victim was prevented from screaming by their wounds; estimated that at least five and perhaps 15 minutes passed between the time Goldman’s jugular vein was cut and he was stabbed in the chest; disputed that mark on Ms. Simpson’s back was bruise from a shoe and instead attributed it to lividity, or settling of blood; defended autopsy work by medical examiner Irwin Golden, who did not find the marks; said he could not specify that Ms. Simpson was murdered at any specific time between 10:15 p.m. and 10:50 p.m. by condition of food in her stomach.

MICHELE KESTLER: director of LAPD crime laboratory; was assistant laboratory director on night of murders; said she didn’t always take notes at meetings on Simpson case; said she doesn’t remember much about what was discussed; said her criminalists handled about 400 cases last year; said Simpson case was only one she did personal inventory on in last year; said she took that ``cursory look″ at evidence on June 29, 1994; said she personally collected evidence from Bronco on Aug. 26, 1994; said she saw red stains on console; said magazine photographer was with her when she took evidence from Bronco; said photographer was given permission to take pictures by higher authority; said because of prosecution request, defense experts were allowed in lab to look at evidence and watch testing.

GILBERT AGUILAR: LAPD fingerprint specialist; compared all prints found at crime scene to known prints; colleagues determined on June 13, 1994, that none of 17 prints lifted from the crime scene was from Simpson; when Aguilar joined case, he reviewed work and determined it was accurate; went through all prints that were taken from crime scene and said nine were never matched; said those unmatched prints could have come from two of Ms. Simpson’s sisters, her gardener, baby sitter, maid or even an Avon lady.

JOHN LARRY RAGLE: forensics consultant; testified that LAPD investigation of crime scene ``fell below minimum standards;″ said LAPD ignored proper procedures for collection of evidence; acknowledged under cross-examination that he has not been to a crime scene since he retired in 1989.

CHRISTIAN REICHARDT: chiropractor; said he knew Simpsons for 18 months and was friend to both; said Simpson was depressed in weeks before murder over his breakup with Ms. Simpson; said Simpson called him around 9 p.m. on June 12, 1994; said Simpson was relaxed and happy during 15-minute conversation and they made plans for dinner few nights later; said Simpson was packing his bag for Chicago while they talked.

KENNETH BERRIS: Chicago police detective; arrived at O’Hare Plaza Hotel around noon June 13, 1994; spoke with general manager; inspected Room 915; said bed covers were tossed; saw broken drinking glass in bathroom sink, several small chips of glass along vanity; to right of sink, found washcloth with reddish stain and said he believed it was blood; said there was another stain on sheets in bedroom; said two plastic laundry bags missing from hotel room are still unaccounted for.

HENRY LEE: forensics consultant; said he is being reimbursed for expenses only, while about $50,000 that he would have been paid was donated to college and police agency; testified that bloody imprints found on envelope and piece of paper at crime scene didn’t match sole pattern of type of shoes prosecution claims were worn by killer; said blood patterns on Goldman’s jeans ``could be″ from shoe, but if they were, it was not a Bruno Magli shoe; said bloodstains show Goldman was slain while standing upright and struggling; said struggle was prolonged but couldn’t say how long; said impressions in soil where Goldman’s body was found should have been cast and analyzed by police investigators; gave jurors blood splatter demonstration, startling many when he smacked an ink blot to make a splash; said he examined pair of socks at police lab where he was treated rudely and denied access to adequate equipment; said socks had been contaminated by improper handling; said subsequent examination confirmed blood had seeped through all sides of socks, supporting theory that blood was planted; said he used PCR and RFLP in his laboratory; couldn’t eliminate possibility that two police officers left some shoe prints at crime scene, but said he doubted it.

KATHLEEN BELL: real estate agent; said she met Detective Fuhrman several times in 1985 or 1986; said Fuhrman told her during first conversation that he would find some reason to pull over a black male motorist driving with a white woman; said he called love between interracial couples ``disgusting″ and told her ``If I had my way I’d gather _ all the niggers would be gathered together and burned.″

NATALIE SINGER: CD-ROM producer; said when she met Fuhrman in 1987 he used a racial epithet against blacks in describing gang members; said first time she met him he said, ``The only good nigger is a dead nigger.″

WILLIAM BLASINI JR.: car parts buyer; said he visited the yard where Bronco was impounded on June 21, 1994; said he was curious so he sat in passenger and driver’s seats and didn’t see any blood inside; said he touched steering wheel and put his fingers up to glass in two areas to check for fingerprint dust but didn’t find any.

ROLF ROKAHR: LAPD photographer; took pictures of Fuhrman pointing at evidence in pre-dawn darkness of June 13, 1994, before Fuhrman went to Simpson’s estate, not after he returned.

LAURA HART McKINNY: North Carolina screenwriter; said she met Fuhrman in 1985 when he asked about her computer in a cafe; said she taped their conversations and asked him to be as ``factual and realistic as possible″ as she looked for information for a story called ``Men Against Women″ about sexism in the LAPD; said she compiled 11 to 12 hours of tape over nearly a decade, said Fuhrman used the ``n-word″ more than 40 times in a ``very casual, ordinary″ manner while describing police work; said Fuhrman used the word as recently as 1988.

RODERIC HODGE: communications repair technician who lives in Dolton, Ill.; taken into custody in 1987 by Fuhrman and partner; told jurors he was handcuffed and placed inside police vehicle; said Fuhrman turned around, looked at him and said, ``I told you we’d get you, nigger.″